Starting with the February 2008 board meeting, the most recent board notes will be posted right after the meeting has been held. Note that these are not the official notes until they have been approved at the next meeting. Thus, will will have a bright red background, and a disclaimer to that effect.

 

Future Meetings will be at the Salvation Army Camp. Still at 6PM.

Note -- the following minutes are NOT OFFICIAL until they have been approved at a subsequent board meeting.
Comments on the accuracy of these minutes should be sent to the Secretary of the Board.
Comments on any other aspects of these minutes should be brought up at the next board meeting, in person or by email.

DLPOA Board Meeting November 11 2010


About 20 people were in attendance, including past president Larry Nokes.


Mike Phillips / Water quality – The lake is up one inch in the last month.


Bajadali/Apparel – shirts make fine Christmas gifts!!! An inventory of items will be on the web site.


Decals – The motion was made to send a DLPOA Decal to each dues paying member next year. This will cost about a buck each to buy and send back to people who pay their dues. The decals work by static cling for applying to car windows. The motion was voted on and approved.


Skip Wells / emergency services – West Bay Resorts donated $500 for the fire department rescue items donations. We are contacting Loon Lake POA to see if they will participate. DLPOA already agreed to contribute $1000.


Santora/Fish – Next year we will get some Eastern Brook Trout. This year is all silvers and rainbows.


Humphry / Signs – The large signs are all up. The small signs identifying businesses and resorts will be up in the next couple of weeks. There will be gravel on the west side sign. The Kaniksu sign got planted.


Mike Phillips/LMD and Milfoil – DLPOA is on the hook for milfoil eradication in 2011 (maybe $10k), and for sending out propaganda (maybe another $2k). We might get it back at the end of the lifetime of the LMD. The question is, how much can DLPOA spend with only board authorization, or do we need membership vote? A motion was made to authorize $2K for Educational Materials (eg the P word) to fund the proposed LMD. Approved. We will hold off on a vote of the $10K for the eradication until after the general LMD meeting in March.


We voted to spend $150 to sponsor the next Lake Management Seminar in February.


New Business – the next board meeting is in March, but LMD meeting will be just before that.


We still need to revise the bylaws. D2 may do this.


Deer Lake Resort will have a new year’s eve party.


7:30!!!!!


3rd LMD meeting 11/11/10


Attending: Mike Phillips, Lee Bayley, Ron Watson, D2. Jerry McBride was traveling.


Lee handed out a draft petition for the LMD.


We had a discussion of what extras to throw into the LMD: Lake testing, Environmental quality (eg jet skis); Muck; Other kinds of weeds and insects.


DLPOA initial costs can be got back from the LMD at the end of the LMD. This would be for our Educational Materials to encourage our members to vote.


We Need total cost numbers for the LMD. Then we need assessment amounts. We need a date for the general meeting with the county commissioners.


We will convert the petition to whatever documents are needed by the commissioners .


We need to decide where to have this meeting. February is difficult because of holidays, county budget meetings. Might have to be early March.

DLPOA Board Meeting October 14, 2010


Mike Brunson, Candidate for Stevens County Sheriff, visited. He has three college degrees, taken mostly at night while working, and 22 years of law enforcement experience. The Sheriff in this county controls law enforcement, jail, and ambulance. Mike proposes using space in fire departments for a place to let deputies do paperwork, since there are few COP stations in our county. He will revitalize the reserve deputy program (currently there are 7 reserve officers). The only jail in our county is in Colville. He proposes to use reserves to transport people to jail, allowing the full time officers to get back to patrolling. He knows how to get grants and things from the feds. He will try to get new hires to live in the south part of the county, since most now live up north. There are only 45 people in the whole department, including jail, etc. He expects to visit all the small town leaders and hold town meetings.


Sandy and Marion, managers of West Bay Resort, (which was recently sold to a group in California) were guests. West Bay helps a lot with the kiddie parade. During the summer, they sponsor disabled veterans to a day at the lake – fishing, dinner, transportation.


We had two visitors from Kaniksu Ranch – Steve Anson and Gary Olsen. They have 90 members. The park contains 40 rv and tent sites, and a Clubhouse with some bedrooms. As you would expect, they have a Swimming pool and hot tub. The developed area is 15 acres, with 240 total as part of the ranch. It has been there since mid 40's. The club actually formed 1939. Visitors can go up there by calling ahead (233-8202), and they have an open house in September, and of course the 10k Bun Run every July. For those that do not know, it is a clothing optional resort.


Arlan Garlic donated another $80 for 2011 fireworks after donating $300 last month.


Signs/Humphrey – The North Deer Lake sign is now up. The Kaniksu sign that was immediately in front of it has been moved back a bit. Still to do – the small signs showing where stuff is on the lake. We thought we had permission to move the Kaniksu sign, but it turns out we talked to the wrong people. But now they like where we leaned it against a tree, so we will plant the sign in front of the tree.



Fish – 15012 rainbows were delivered to Jim Santora, and more fish will be delivered to Ken Ring. He gets 25000 Kokanee (eg Silvers, eeg Mack Food) tomorrow. Jim thinks he knows how to get Eastern Brooks next year.


Safety/Skip Wells – The Fire chief responded to our donation offer. He gave us a list of helpful goodies: Water rescue gear, $6k, Pontoon boat (used) $7k, Pump and water storage $21k, Ropes $3k, Gas leak detector $1800. It is difficult to buy some equipment specifically for Deer Lake, because the fire department is one department, and sees all their equipment as being available to the entire district.


We Voted to devote $1000 of DLPOA money to get this started. Mr Bayley suggested that we ask the membership for donations for some of this stuff as we do for the fireworks, so that DLPOA would not have to fund all of it ourselves. We think donations through DLPOA (but not directly to the fire department) would be tax deductible. We could maybe partner with Loon Lake POA. They are using the Loon Lake fire station for some of their activities so they might be inclined to help fill the kitty. Mrs Ring suggested that we have a walkathon donation, and also push the concept hard at next pancake feed. Mr Garlic suggested a Lake Wide yard sale.


Lake level/Mike Phillips – it started out 1 ft below full pool this spring, and we have only lost another foot, which is less than our normal 2.5 foot loss during the summer.


Road cleanup/Mike Phillips – there was a disappointing turnout for the fall cleanup of only 11 people to cover the roads around the lake. Mr Phillips needs help to set things up. He already has a full plate, and the other long time organizers are getting rather long in tooth. We unanimously nominated Jerry Rasley, who conveniently was not here for this meeting.


Credit cards – Mr Bajadali has been working on setting up a way to take payments, like for apparel and dues, via credit cards. However, it seems to be too expensive for our needs. We decided to table the idea for now, but may still use our web site to push the apparel items.


Mr Ring suggested that we send Membership cards to new members. This would cost about a buck a member (5% of the dues value). We will defer this decision to November. He also would like to list the members on the web site. The web guy loudly booed him down on this idea.


Calendar – We voted that DLPOA will provide a calender for its members in the next newsletter. This will include dates of DLPOA activities. It would be supported by advertising at $45/year for a business card size ad on the calendar. Mrs Ring will produce the calendar in some format to be part of the newsletter. It will be seven double sided pages (one month per side, a purty pikture of the lake, and the aforementioned ads). In order to get this done, we configured the dates for the significant events of next year, something that we generally do not do till well into next year.


A Mr Ballard will have an industrial size snow plow he will do driveway cleanup with.


Holy Grounds will have a cookie making party on the 2nd Saturday in December, the output of which will be given to whoever is on Deer Lake in the dead of winter.


Mike Phillips – The first LMD (Lake Management District) board meeting was held. Larry Gunther (county commissioner), Sue Winterrood (county biologist or something) attended, along with four of the the five DLPOA members that make up the committee (the secretary was missing). We are applying for two grants. One is to fund the expense to set up the LMD. However, this money is not available till July 1, and any money we spend prior to that has to come out of DLPOA pockets. But if we wait too long, then we will miss a whole year. Then there is the plan – how are we going to deal with milfoil, need to know information about water quality etc in the lake. Lucky for us, we have all the information that we need for the (50 page) plan. It will still cost about $8K for the plan, and DLPOA will probably have to fund part of that. Doing the LMD will probably take till the end of summer. It is not a tax, it is an assessment (which is just tax spelled with 10 letters), of maybe $50/waterfront lot. Once you have milfoil established in a lake, kiss your property values goodby. Loon Lake has already done their LMD (they are spending $40K/year), the county board of commissioners is all for it. The 2nd grant would pay for the plan, but we have to start now, not July 1. Dave Lamb, of Coeur d’ Alene Tribal Labs, will write the plan. He has experience in doing this with other lakes. We will get an estimate by the next meeting of how much DLPOA will be on the hook for. The guy doing the milfoil eradication for us these last two years has to provide a final report on where it is, and how much there is. Of the $50k we have spent thus far, all but $800 was through grants. Our 24d spray in the narrows worked very well, and we still have some bottom barriers in the narrows. The cost to establish the LMD comes out of the LMD, unless it does not pass, in which case DLPOA eats the whole thing (like about $8-12K).


Ron Watson is now a board member.


Local boy scouts were pulling wire on our Narrows property, and found a dead deer wrapped up in the fence wire and disposed it, so we will write a thank you letter.


Finished at 8:45.


LMD Documents

The next two documents are reports from the Lake Management Disrict subcommittee.
The LMD is being established to get money to fight the milfoil and other pests in our lake.
The secretary, who is a member of this committee, missed the first meeting in early October.

2nd Lmd meeting – October 21 2010

Attending: Mike Phillips, Lee Bayley, Jerry McBride, Ron Watson, D2

Note that the scribe missed the first LMD meeting earlier this month.


We are doing another lake survey (and weed pull) this month. The 24d in the toolies did a good job. But now to do this in the future we need to have a plan and even more permits (new this year).


The LMD money will come from property tax income starting in April 2012, and so not before April 2012.


Mike is working on a grant app to pay for the LMD voting, planning, etc. But no money is available before June 2011. Dave Lamb, CDA tribe, will charge us about $8k to write up the plan for the LMD. We think we do not need any more information that would cost any money to gather.


We DLPOA will have to pay for next year’s eradication. Doug Freeland said he will work with us to reduce our cost for next year, because he does not want us to skip a year (like Loon Lake did). We think that will be about $10k. Note that next year the county will not be a participant, so there will be no management charges by the county.


Mike will do a Newsletter article (again) on the LMD. He will emphasize the property values will fall huge if we fail to control it. Any lake shore down to 30 ft deep will be susceptible to growing this weed. That is almost all the shoreline.


We are creating a petition. We do not necessarily need a lot of people physically signing it, but that would be good. Maybe a newsletter request for signatures would be helpful. Page 7 of the handout lists the steps you have to do. Once we hand in the petition, the county commissioners then have to decide if the general public really wants to do this, and if they so decide, then they create the LMD and we are out of the picture.


We are looking at 5 years for the initial length of the LMD. There are several options how to bill – front footage, valuation, flat rate for frontage, different rate for secondary. We may have to have a bond to pay for the vote if it does not pass.


Need to know “where the secondary lots end”. There was a long discussion on what is a secondary lot. We cannot go by the data the county gave us.


Do we need a DLPOA membership vote to do all this? Need to check the bylaws.


Discussion on if we should do an informal straw vote before we hand this into the commissioners for the real vote. Push the loss of property values when property is sold.



Will not bill government properties.

Will need to advertize public meetings in Spokane and Chewela papers.

We will go with the county declaration of what is frontage and what is secondary lots.


D2 will come up with a mailing list.

LMD meeting with county commissioners and other department heads – 11/4/10<

Attending: County Prosecutor, treasurer, auditor, assessor. Commissioner Guenthor

Mike Phillips and D2.


The purpose of the meeting was to get all the people who know the answers to our questions in the same room at the same time. DLPOA had a number of unanswered questions about how to form the LMD from the point of view of what the county demands from us, and what they will provide.


Our first question dealt with how to assess non profits – in the past, non profits have volunteered to pay assessments, but if they do not volunteer, we do not force them (prosecutor). A point to note is that we are not instituting a tax, but an assessment. There appears to be some legal differences between the two. For instance, poor senior citizens can get a break on taxes, but not on assessments.


We asked what happens when somebody sells their property? (Treasurer). The county will bill from the list they have of who owns what. They said that they generally get (only) a 96% response rate on tax bills.


Assessor – per parcel basis is the best way to handle the tax billing. Ponderay goes by owners, not parcels, and Stevens county is not set up to do that. Some people think going by parcel is unfair, but the county really has no other way to do it. That means that people that have X parcels will pay X assessments.


The county Legal department prepares all the paperwork, resolutions, and makes sure we follow the statutes. The county bills the LMD $4 per parcel, so there are no extras for legal work or other county people, and those charges occur only after the LMD starts up.


Sept 1 is when the county closes its tax rolls. Then the Assessor delivers tax lists to treasurer about January 1. So everybody would like the LMD passed and names ready to go by sept 1 at absolutely latest, and they would prefer a whole lot earlier.


So the process appears to be as follows: We do not need to petition the Commissioners for the LMD. We (DLPOA) DO need to have a well publicized public meeting about this issue. If as a result of that meeting, it looks like the property owners are generally in favor of doing the LMD, a vote of all property owners will be scheduled. The county sends out the ballots, and the county counts the results. Ballots go out to all property owners, regardless of the county they live in. (This includes banks, lawyers, trusts, etc.) For each dollar of assessment, a property owner gets one vote. (Our working premiss Subject to Change is that we will charge $30 per frontage parcel, $15 per secondary parcel. Thus, frontage owners get 30 votes, and secondary owners get 15 votes. If an owner has several parcels, each parcel gets a vote.) You have 30 days for the ballots to be sent in and counted.


After the vote there is a hearing by the commissioners. This hearing to report the findings on the vote. Essentially, if the proposition passes, it is a done deal that day as far as forming the LMD. The commissioners will draft an ordinance creating the LMD right there. The property owners then have 20 days for an assessment hearing AFTER the LMD is formed to let people grump about their assessment. This essentially means that somebody gets to argue that their lot is really secondary and not frontage. They do not get to say that a lot is or is not in the LMD, or that the whole concept of an LMD sucks, or whine about how expensive it is or any of that. After all that, we have the solid numbers to give to the assessor. DLPOA then generates a spreadsheet of property owners and hands it to the assessor and they take it from there to get on the tax rolls for 2012 taxes. Once the LMD is formed, it is a county entity, not DLPOA. This mostly means the weed board.


Somehow in the meeting it was felt that the public hearing should occur by end of FEBRUARY. That gives you March to report the results of the hearing to the Commissioners, who then decide if they want to schedule a vote or ask for more hearings or just bag the whole idea if the hearing resulted in some sort of tax riot. So the ballots would be sent out sometime in March, and you have 30 days for the ballot counting which brings you to the end of April to get the results, and sometime in May for the assessment hearings. So on that timeline we could have the list ready for the assessor by our annual meeting in June. Pushing the vote back pushes back the time by which the assessor gets the list. Nobody was very keen on having the public hearings in February, but there you are.


We (Sue Winterrood and DLPOA) are applying for a $23k grant for the creation of the LMD. While we have applied, the approval decision is not made till early January. If we get the grant, the money can get spent only after July 1 2011, which is sort of long after the whole process has finished based on the above timeline. Half that money goes to the production of the Plan, some of it to the weed board for administration expenses, and we thought we would need the rest for our expenses. However, it appears that there will be little if any expense to DLPOA, since the county will do most of the heavy lifting. The county treasurer however did feel that they could find some use for this money, somehow, somewhere.


Part of all this is somebody has to write a Plan. This might be done by a guy from the CdA tribe, who did the Loon Lake and other LMDs and is familiar with the process, but it has to be put out for bid. The plan is not necessary to have to create the LMD, but it is necessary to have once the LMD is in operation. Hence we have the plan being written long after the LMD has been voted on. And there is something called a Mini Plan (for 2,4-D applications).


The assessments are static for the life of the LMD. Every X years you start a new lmd and can then change the assessments. Within the life of the LMD, the money can slide year to year. But it has to be gone at the end of the LMD lifetime. You can spend money in the LMD only on what the your LMD Petition called for (the thing that the county commissioners base their ordinance on). So you have to be pretty inclusive to take care of any future problems that may come up, like other weeds or animals that may have to be dealt with.


The county treasurer made a strong statement that somehow this money has to be spent, because she does not want to cut $10 checks to 900 property owners at the end of the LMD.

DLPOA Board Meeting September 9, 2010


New President Ring handed out kudos to people that worked on all the projects this summer. Mike Egan, 4th July. Lee Bayley, pancake feed. Skip Wells, light donation. Kevin Schroder, signs and weed killer, gas for dock cleanup. Arlen Garlick $300 firework donations. Rick Jarvis helped with a machine during dock demo. Ron Watson was a pancake flipper but never got acknowledged in the newsletter.


Treasurer: We have 269 paid members. $48K + $8K in assets. $500 came from the county for fireworks. Dock demo nets $1500. Pancake nets $2800. Apparel nets $400.


Guest speaker: Mike Bucy, new district fire chief. Just hired from Indiana. Lives in Suncrest. Can always use more volunteers in the department. Wants to get out in the community. Looking to serve lake areas better than now is the case.


Michelle from Holy Grounds. Pig Out at Pinelow Park Sunday Sept 19. Open to the entire community.


Signs – East Side sign is up. North Side sign is painted, logs are being stripped, hope to have the sign up soon. Suggestion was to have business placards on our sign, rather than a junkyard of random signs.


Fish pens will be stocked in October – rainbows. No brook this year. Maybe silvers too.


No wood cutting news.


Lake level is higher than normal by about a foot at this time of the year.


Skip Wells on ideas for donations to the fire district – possibly GPS units, ropes for water lifesaving, cold water (ice) rescue, shirts for the volunteers. This money would come from some of the pancake feed net. We are thinking of about $500.


Sgt Dean Westerman resigned from sheriff and fire board. Our new contact is Sgt Caruso, who lives near Loon Lake. The previous Stevens County sheriff took a job with the feds, so there will be a new sheriff in town. For now, the undersheriff is doing the job, but two other people are running for the election in November.


Bill Bajadali – we are looking into using credit cards for apparel, dues etc. Would like to get our web site to accept this stuff. We need to check out Paypal through yahoo business. D2 will contact WindWireless, our web host, for ideas on how to do this. The question was asked if we could mess up our non profit status by selling stuff. Answer: Limit of $25k profit on these items to keep tax free status.


Bill Meulink – membership. He set up a booth at the pancake feed, picked up 12 members. Soft sell approached worked best – talked to the visitors, and did not push the membership issue, and people signed up. Now thinks that the free newsletter is a good idea.. Maybe we should have window stickers like in the past. Do community schmoozing stuff. Do some stuff for focus groups, like women get togethers, opening day of fishing party, etc. Fishing derby.

 

Should we put DLPOA members names on the web? General comments were not to do this.

Should we thank paid members in the newsletter? Future discussion.


Calendar – Mr Ring suggested that we add a six page insert of a calendar in the next newsletter with dlpoa dates on it, plus a page of deer lake and business cards on the back. Maybe in color in the future. Not much time left to get this done by November. A work in progress. Need dates for significant events by next meeting. A list of businesses would be good too. D2 needs to find a calendar program.


Eagle Scouts have been pulling fences in the narrows which were left over from the farmers of decades ago. Barbed wire, cedar fence posts, metal posts.


One of the board members talked about doing a 17 mile bike ride around the lake, including way back into the narrows. It seems that if you go back far enough, you can get past the swampy areas. You are on Federal land, so you are not trespassing.


Mike Phillips on doing a Deer Lake LMD. Jim Richardson at Loon Lake put in their LMD to fund their milfoil fight. We have the documents from Thurston county for their LMD. We will form a board to start the process. Lee Bayley, Ron Watson, D2, Mike Phillips, Jerry McBride. Larry Gunther is on board for the county. The LMD is a taxing authority. You cannot apply for more grants unless you have started an LMD. The tax will probably be about $50/year to start. It looks like we might get one more grant this year. LMD will probably be started in 2012. The grant will be for 2011. There is a vote of all property owners, not just voters in Stevens County. The committee will be making decisions about who to tax, how to tax, etc. It does not have to be just milfoil – the LMD can and probably should also deal with other noxious weeds. The county will ultimately run the LMD, but we have to get the decisions made, get the vote done, figure out the budgets. These things are for a limited number of years (3-5) and then you vote again. DLPOA pays for the election.


Roadside cleanup Sat Sept 18. No chili, just Donuts. 8am.


Done at 830

DLPOA Board Meeting June 10, 2010


This is our first meeting in June. We actually had several visitors (including two wives). Commissioner Larry was here for the first half hour.


Treasury: $8700 checking, $40k+ CDs.

The secretary forgot to bring last month’s meeting notes.


Fish: Fish pens have been emptied. Trying to get brook trout next time.


Net Pens – Fish & Game club withdrew their offer of fish pens because of some state bureaucracy red tape thing. There would be a problem with water quality because of fish poop by adding more fish according to some local biologist. Seems like we would have to pay for a study on this issue but the cost of the study was more than the cost of the fish pens. Deer Lake has a 9.5 year turnover, compared to 1.5 for lakes with an outlet. There appears to be some sort of pissing match between F&W and DOE. We are guaranteed fish for Ken and Jim’s existing pens for the next season. Anyway, any hopes for this year are gone. Maybe we can put some pressure on whoever and whatever so that we do not get screwed next year.


Roadside cleanup – 1100 lbs.

Chilli feed – 15 people or more.

There is a proposal to convert the chilli feed to a breakfast feed instead – then go out and pick up.

We need to get a letter into the county for our cut of the hotel motel tax for our fireworks.


Membership – create a banner to promote membership, to be hung at the entrance to the lake roads. Voted on and passed.


Road Safety – if you have a problem, call the sheriff. We have a deputy that lives on the lake, at least at the moment.


Water Quality – lake has come up 7 inches since last measurement, but is still 13 inches below full pool, which is an inch lower than last year.


Milfoil – Brian and Kevin are going to nuke the narows with 2,4D sometime in July. They have the permit to apply 24d on our lake. All the various agencies have signed off. July 6-8 or so. They will use a granular material (so it sinks) to be applied in the narrows toolies. Notification is 10-21 days prior to treatment, to everybody within a quarter mile. Day of treatment must post no swimming in that area for 24 hours. Will use a backpack blower device to get the stuff below the water surface. DLPOA asked that it be delayed a week because of July 4 weekend and the larger than normal population that will be here. They agreed. Does not affect the fish. Loon Lake has been doing it for several years. Our permit runs till next year, at $500 a year or so just for the permit. Bottom Barriers already in the narrows will be pulled out first.


Dock Demo – 25 people showed up. 800 ft of docks crunched. 8000 lbs of just styrofoam, 6 dump truck loads of burnables. $325 is dump fees. Back Hoe was donated. Ken Ring led the group.


North Deer Lake Sign – Dealing with the side logs and anchors. Sign is almost painted. We had a big discussion as to exactly where to put it, and where to put the auxiliary informational signs. We are now thinking of putting those above and below, but the Kniksu sign might get in the way. We cannot block the road that intersects with North Deer Lake road, and we cannot be too near the power pole that is in the area. We have a permit for our sign. We think most of the other signs there do not. We could get power from that pole for lights. It has been 10 years since we last painted the sign. The posts are toast, but the boards of the sign are golden still.


3th July Kiddie Parade – there will be people with walkie talkies and a bullhorn to organize everybody at deer lake resort and on the way to west bay. Picnic at west bay. Two sheriff deputies.


D2 and Mike Egan will drag the fireworks barge around the day of and day after the fireworks.


President – we need a president. Mike will be gone in a couple of years. We all think that Ken Ring would be a great candidate, but Ken himself is not real open to the idea. All the other obvious candidates are either busy professionally or already have other gigs or ...


Pancake feed – set up Saturday afternoon 2pm, then start the process Sunday morning 7am.


Done 8:15

DLPOA Board Meeting May 13, 2010


VisitorLarry Gunther, county commissioner for this district. Shooting ordinance – Loon Lake did a universal shooting ban. Ours would be a partial ban. Need to discuss this with all the commissioners. Call Pauly, clerk of he board, to get on the schedule. Sheriff’s view is, this is hard to enforce.


Budget still sucks. Sheriff hired five people with a grant, which ends in 2012. So they are trying to find $500K over the next three years to fill that hole. Maybe try for a 0.3% sales tax. Otherwise three deputies get whacked. County employee furloughs will start. New labor negotiations start this year, and county will ask for givebacks. Will be active in coordinating activities with federal agencies, like fish & game, forestry. Different than simple cooperation. Coordination gives the county a degree of control that cooperation does not. 395 will be repaved from Clayton to Dragoon Creek. So expect delays this summer. Got 10 new patrol cars from Washington State Patrol.


Treasurer – fireworks deposit made, walts, DOE for 24 d application. 164 paid members. Property taxes. D&O Insurance – Discussion to blow away liability insurance on the swampland. Voted to keep the insurance, but look into adding a deductible.


Merel Ott, county commissioner District 2. (Was not here at same time as Larry). – gave Kudos to Larry the commissioner. Thinks that Stevens county government works really well. Employment going up in county. Lumber mills are cranking up or getting reopened. Biomass generation plant being built. Will be a long road. Not too keen himself on a sales tax increase. 70% of county budget is labor. Trying to deal with state regulatory oppression, and state funding of criminal justice system. Need to be self sufficient as possible. Not keen on passing ordinances that cannot be enforced (eg shooting, dogs).


Mike Phillips – Lake up three inches from last month. May is normally the high point of the year.


Milfoil – will run out of grant money by end of summer. Will do 2,4D on about an acre in the narrows. DOE has stand alone grants available for fighting milfoil. But they like to deal with LMDs. Can only ask for this in October. LMD is voted on by property owners regardless of what county they live in. Need to get honking on this soon. Will follow Loon Lake’s process. Not sure if it is a simple or super majority of property owners required to vote for it.


Bottom Barriers are in the narrows, will be pulled off in June. We will not know how effective they were till then.


Roadside Cleanup – Tim Dssack will do the east side, Mike the west side. Usually get 30 people, need maybe 4 people to cook the chili after the cleanup. At the firehouse.


Annual meeting – this year at 10am, at the firehouse. Pot luck, but we supply hot dogs, buns, condiments, juice. Need people to bring desserts, salads.


DLPOA exec meeting that previous Thursday 6pm, at Salvation Army camp.


4th July – parade. Mrs Nokes will help. Larry Nokes will be in it. Need the kids in the front of the parade to keep everything together. Mike will work with sheriff department. Need about 8 monitors. Mr Ring will coordinate those items.


Mr Gregerson has the fireworks docks, and wants some anchors to hold them onto the shore. Motion passed. Mike Egan and I will be the barge movers.


Boat parade man (jarvis) – start at the narrows “in front of his place”, going counter clockwise.


Pancake feed all set to go. Need volunteers day before to set up, then 530 am to start cooking or something.


16000 fish released. 6-9 inches. DOE killed the grant for 2 new fish pens because they needed some EnviroWienie study to permit it or something.


Lake Map Signs – they are being painted. PUD and Mike did a site survey and there are some quibbles. Moving the Kinitksu sign would help out.


Dock Cleanup. Salvation army camp billed DLPOA for cleaning up the burn pile area ($180). T&J construction will provide excavators and bulldozers, but still needs another truck.


Lee Baily got a bunch of boating rules handouts encased in plastic so we can put them out into the open areas.


Fire chief assessment – 12 volunteers looking for a new fire chief. Ended up with a 123 ranking of the applicants. Commissioners ended up with the same rankings. They have approached the #1 candidate and hope to decide on him next week.


Dock at public access – Fish & Wildlife controls. They have looked at it, and if a dock was donated to the cause, they would consider installing and using it. They are also looking for a different public access area, but just about every inch of lake shore is owned by somebody.


845 done

DLPOA Board Meeting 4/8/10


Visitors: Mike Slater and Paul Dye, Bob Hoskie– LogSmarter. See the web site at Logsmarter.com. Their land borders old Boise Cascade land, now owned by Forest Capital. FC did helicopter spraying of their trees, so the spray went everywhere, then they logged the land. They did some investigating to find out who these guys were – offices in Boston, Portland, Coeur d’ Alene. They own over 2 Million acres of land around the US. There was a Public meeting Nov 20 2008 about their logging practices, which people were upset about because of the unsustainable way they are doing the logging. They were asked to name any parcel that they selectively thinned – none. Aerial spray to kill the brush, then log it over. They do replant, but it is a monoculture of trees, not a variety. Plus every living thing got killed by the spraying. They plant larch, and kill off all the pines. This is going on now between Orin Rice road and Addey Kitteridge road. Also Taylor flats and Stranger creek. These are all watersheads and drainages for these areas. Killed all the huckelbery plants too.


FC is now operating within the law. Logsmarter expects that the land will get devastated, and be sold off for development. The west (wet) side made the forestry rules, and our dry areas really are not amenable to that practice, but that is now the legal way to do things and there you are.


You can try to change the regs. Hence the petition. Dry land forest issues. Logsmarter is asking that east of the cascades that clearcuts be limited to 40 acres. Asking for larger raprian buffer zones. Ask that they Reforest at state minimum amount per acre. Plant Tamarack, larch, red fir. No pine, no white pine.


May 11 – State forest practicers board meeting (the guys that set the regulations) –Logsmarter is trying to get some petitions by that time to get the board to consider their objections.


Boise bought the land around our area in 70's. Their plan was to clear cut, but DLPOA went to them and grumped, and the clear cut turned into selective cuts.





SkipWells – fire district – $1.6 million budget thanks to the levy that got passed. They did hire a full time mechanic. They are replacing the fire fighter that left. They are hiring a chief, to replace the old chief that retired. The levy said they would replace the breathing apparatus. They got a grant that will buy 43 devices, so they still need to buy another 10 or so. $3500 per tank. Because of that grant, some of the levy money can be put into other goodies. Got another grant for an air filling trailer to fill these bottles. Will have them all by May. Everybody at Tum Tum station will be trained on using the trailer.


Bought a new medical truck, cut price from $150k to $91k because of the in house mechanic.


Our class 7 fire rating still exists.


Volunteer retention – 85 % of new volunteers last a year, 25 % left in 10 years, 9% at 25 years. How do you keep these guys?


We have 2.5 volunteers for our deer lake station. 2 training days a month. 6 weeks to get to minimum standards.





Sherriff Westerman – no shooting zone issue – Waits Lake has one, passed by the commissioners. Loon Lake had one, but then it got rescinded. State Laws RCS reckless endangerment laws (9a) might cover this situation. Very tough to prove. Easier to deal with are felons who have guns. That is 5 year in the slam. Also if you have domestic violence conviction, you lose your gun rights. Rcw 9.41.040


There are some breakins around the lake, mostly during the day. It really helps if people are checking on their neighbors houses when they come to the lake, especially on weekdays.





The Meeting – 137 paid members for this year. Mailed off the fireworks deposit for the $5600 total.


Fish – Jim Santora released his pen last Monday. The ceremony was attended by an aqua culture class. Average length (of the fish) were 6.5 in, range 5-8 in, 2.5 inches.


4th July – discussed where to load up the docks. Seems we upset the property owners last year by talking to the wrong person.


Water quality – 22 inches below full pool right now. Should reach the max by mid May. Water coming in from springs, and there is still some snowpack on the mountains. The public access area is useable by big boats.


Millfoil – we paid for permits for chemical eradication, but did not use them. However, the company we paid did not ($400) make the payments. So the county did it and will be billing us. This is the guy that has the licenses to spray the stuff around.


We WILL need to create an LMD probably next year to keep the millfoil eradication going. That means an extra hit on your tax bill.


7:30 start for boat parade.


Road cleanup 8am may 22

dock cleanup 9am June 5

annual board meeting 10am

pancake feed 7-11 July 4


The pancake feed is mainly a community building event that happens to make some money. Used to buy things for the fire department. Maybe should now spend some of the money for local usage. Maybe cost of lake cleanup. Environmental stuff.


Proposed a new starting point for the boat parade of head of the narrows.


We now have SLPOA branded shirts, caps, etc available.


Done at 8:30.

DLPOA Board Meeting 3/11/10


Mr Westerman, deputy sheriff, was supposed to come to the meeting to talk about the no shooting ordinance, but did not show up. Loon Lake did have an ordinance but dropped it. We have absolutely no laws about shooting anywhere on or near the lake, and it is not likely that anything will occur. There are laws for state land, and federal land, but not for unincorporated land.


Will contract with the bang bang guys for 3rd of July again. Mike and Mrs Nokes are dealing with that.


Geese and Duck Control Options. – not much, live with it.


Water Safety Flyer. -- Want to get more printed up for annual meeting, newsletter notice.


Regional Lakes Conference – Mike and Dennis went. DLPOA donated to the support of the conference. A report will appear in the next newsletter. Mike is going to get some soil samples analyzed for phosphorus.


Fire chief – Present guy is resigning. Feeling is he did a great job, especially scaring the crap out of everybody enough to get the fire house bond through. There is an evaluation on April 16-17 for a new chief. The district is interested in having a dlpoa member be part of the evaluation committee.


Dock cleanup – We think that a local company (Terry Reid) will provide dump truck and excavator this year. June 5.


Extra board meeting on June 10.


D2 will look at bylaws.


Jarvis will lead the boat parade. Clockwise this year.


Mike and Mike took the North sign and took it apart for maintenance and moving. Dave Watkins (aka Hippie Dave) will reassemble them for us to near the public access area. He may also do the East sign. Brian will birddog this project. Maybe it will even have lights.


Newsletter – End of April.


Fish – NE Washington fish club asked for 2 more fish pens. Fish & Game does not know if they will have a budget for fish food. DLPOA is asked to put in $1K for food for one pen. If you are interested in doing a fish pen, you need electricity, and 15 ft plus of water depth.


Predators – Macks and small mouth bass. Some people feel that Bass seems to be the bigger problem. Limit is 10 bass per day. PLEASE don’t throw them back. There are some people who would love to have any fish that you don’t want. A suggestion: have a contest : a Big Mac for a big mack.


Trying to determine what fish next year to stock – F&G would like to Rotenone the lake, but we do not think that is politically popular. Eastern Brook chomps down everything including bass.


New Business – Could we give the pancake feed money to the fire station? Need to talk to Skip and Lee Bailey about that. This apparently was the original purpose of the pancake feed way back when.


Done at 8:30